砸钱才是硬道理欧冠决赛跟创造奇迹毫无(曼城进过几次欧冠决赛)

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导读：传声筒其实就是搬运外网reddit上的一些骚评论，然后再一波骚翻译。一般来说，下面的评论条是对上一条的回复，所以有时候就会有很多抖机灵玩梗。

评论条有些难懂，下面这个表格是用来帮大家理解的。有些东西其实没啥用，比如开头的符号和发布时间。比较有价值的是主队和得分，因为一些评论条必须得特定主队的球迷说出来才有笑点，然后得分高的评论条是比较有趣的（至少老外觉得有意思……）。

Man City vs Chelsea is no fairytale - it's the first European Super League final powered by nothing more than bundles of cash

镜报：曼城切尔西会师欧冠决赛跟创造奇迹毫无关系——只不过是用钱砸出来的欧超联赛决赛而已。

[–]swat1611 1478 points 17 hours ago

This thread is fun.

这条帖子注定要火。

[–]reply【纽卡斯尔】ukpflandlord2 1446 points 16 hours ago

Anyone who enters a Reddit thread discussing money and global politics deserves what they get.

能在Reddit上大谈金钱或全球政治的，我都敬你是条汉子。

[–]reply【巴萨】IntervisioN 308 points 15 hours ago

I make $20 a week, am I qualified to join this discussion?

周薪20刀，我配回帖吗？

[–]reply【纽卡斯尔】ukpflandlord2 317 points 15 hours ago

You qualify as a "high-earning Redditor", can I interest you in a Reddit Gold subscription pack?

兄弟，你这绝对是高收入Redditor了，有兴趣订阅Reddit高级会员吗？

[–]【曼联】hoochiscrazy_ 6479 points 17 hours ago

DREAMS CAN BE BUY

梦想有价可买。

（梗来源于B费说过的“Dreams can’t be buy”，有语法错误）

[–]reply【斯肯索普联】WtfMayt 2052 points 17 hours ago

Real have spent so much over the years but it only seems to be a problem now?

皇马这么多年砸了这么多的钱，现在你觉得有问题了？

[–]reply DelRayTrogdor 397 points 16 hours ago

Los Galacticos was all in our heads...

满脑子的银河战舰...

[–]reply【皇马】stillnoob0 839 points 17 hours ago

Take money out, let your local Sunday league team win cl

不砸钱也行，让你们村踢周末联赛的业余队去争欧冠吧。

[–]reply【皇马】abcris7 780 points 16 hours ago

we were criticized during both the galacticos era, only difference is people can also criticize where the money is coming from in this case.

两代银河战舰时期我们都饱受批评，但和这帖主题的唯一区别大概就是钱的来源吧。

[–]reply bawjaws2000 717 points 16 hours ago

Real were able to afford it by not paying tax for years...you don't really have the moral high ground here.

皇马这么多年能一直砸钱还不是因为常年偷税漏税...所以真别觉得皇马就能占领道德高地了，没多大区别的。

[–]reply【利物浦】kolo4kolo 793 points 16 hours ago

Not paying taxes, violating human rights, same same.

偷税漏税和侵犯人权没什么区别。

[–]【巴黎圣日尔曼】kik00 930 points 17 hours ago

Thankfully, good guys philantropists, people's-club PSG were here to keep the mastodons at bay amid the ESL debacle. Checkmate oligarchs!

在欧超联赛大溃败期间，幸好还有伟大的慈善家，人民的俱乐部——大巴黎为我们守住了最后的底线。土豪受死！

[–]【米兰】M_Vid 12.5k points 18 hours ago22

Meanwhile, previous European finals were powered by the power of friendship

意思是之前的欧冠决赛都是靠友谊的小船撑起来的呗。

[–]reply Aesorian 3355 points 18 hours ago

Every finalist between 2013/14 and 2018/19 loved playing each other so much they all decided that they wanted their own league to make sure it kept happening.

I assume they wanted the footballing equivalent of Childhood sleep-overs

2013/14赛季和2018/19赛季两场精彩的欧冠决赛内战证明，大家都巴不得每年欧冠决赛都是内战，这样就能确保欧冠冠军不会落入其他联赛球队手中了。

我猜大家想要绝对公平的竞争，大概就像小时候去朋友家借宿一样，欧冠冠军就在这几家俱乐部手里来回倒腾。

[–]reply【米兰】M_Vid 812 points 18 hours ago

Omg that sounds so fun are they gonna pillow fight and talk about boys?

哈哈哈听起来还挺有意思的，是不是还要枕头大战，说悄悄话聊男生呢？

[–]reply Aesorian 259 points 18 hours ago

"OMG! That Haaland? So hot right now"

“天啦噜，你说的是那个哈兰德？也太帅了吧。”

[–]reply【皇马】Zeta_195 161 points 18 hours ago

Yeah he's alright but Mbappé is waaay cuter

“对，不过他一般吧，姆巴佩要比他帅多了！”

[–]reply【切尔西】LanceGardner 1401 points 17 hours ago

Guardiola and Zidane braiding each others hair throughout

瓜迪奥拉和齐达内互相给对方编头发。

[–]reply【切尔西】nullyale 385 points 17 hours ago

Wait something is not right here.

等等，好像有哪里不对劲。

[–]reply PradleyBitts 501 points 17 hours ago

These takes are so whack to me. People act like winning titles by spending obscene amounts of money is fine if you're a storied club but if you won the league for the first time in 2004 then it's desecrating the soul of football. Stupid eliti *** lol. Extreme money in football is a massive problem but every big club is to blame.

我真的被楼上那些可以接受砸钱的人震惊了。是不是只要是一家底蕴丰富历史悠久的俱乐部，靠砸钱砸来冠军就可以接受，但一家在2004年才首次摘得联赛桂冠的俱乐部同样这样做，就是对足球这项运动的亵渎？这是什么沙雕精英主义的逻辑啊。对足球这项运动来说，砸钱确实是个大问题，但每家豪门都难辞其咎。

[–]【米尔沃尔】Bob_Rooney 1408 points 18 hours ago

With very few exceptions, getting to the CL final always was powered by bundles of cash.

除了非常少的几次例外，欧冠决赛的门票大都是用真金白银换来的。

[–]reply【阿森纳】BipartizanBelgrade 664 points 17 hours ago

Resources important to competing at elite level of industry. More at 11.

在各个行业的金字塔尖里，手里的资源就是最核心的竞争力，这应该是人尽皆知的吧。

[–]RioBeckenbauer 3328 points 19 hours ago

*** Sport were really trying to portray it as a miracle that City made the final...

Shame Arsenal couldn't join United in the EL final, really wanted to compare the viewing figures for CL and EL finals.

*** 体育怎么总想把曼城首次打入欧冠决赛描述成创造了奇迹一样...

可惜的是阿森纳没能和曼联在欧联决赛会师，如果今年英超把欧冠欧联决赛包圆了，真想看看欧冠决赛和欧联决赛的收视率对比。

[–]reply Electrical-Prune-348 2884 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, I don't understand the narrative of City reaching UCL final as fairytale. With all the money they have spend so far and the squad with the manager they have, they have to reach the final.

没错，不懂为什么要把曼城打进欧冠决赛描述得像是童话故事一样。按他们目前为止砸出去的钱和球队现有的教练和阵容配置来看，打进欧冠决赛是应该的。

[–]reply【查尔顿】The-Go-Kid 2947 points 19 hours ago

The most expensively assembled squad in the history of football, managed by one of the most successful coaches in the history of football, playing for the richest ownership in the history of football.

有着足球史上总身价更高的阵容，主教练是足球史上最成功的教练之一，老板还是足球史上最有钱的老板。

[–]reply peioeh 1394 points 19 hours ago

Assembled by an extremely successful DOF (Barca from 2003 to 2010) too. The UAE literally went "we want to win and we have unlimited money, let's just hire the best people and do it".

别忘了还拥有一名成名已久的足球主管（贝吉里斯坦曾在2003-2010年间担任巴萨的足球主管）。阿联酋的态度大概就是“我想要冠军，我钱花不完，让专业的人干专业的事”。

[–]reply【曼联】Why_S0_Ser10us 441 points 17 hours ago

City went full Football Manager mode:

* Unlimited money. Employed most successful people to run the club.

* Hired best manager in the world with 200 PA.

* Hired best coaches so they have 5 stars in every training category.

* Bought some of the world best players in every single position.

* Bought top players as back up for every starter.

* Developed one of the best, if not best academy in country.

* They also improved Training and Youth Facilities to level 20.

This reminds me of my Salford save in FM 20, except I used Cheat Engine and Genie Scout to achieve all of this lol

曼城走的完全就是FM的路线：

* 无限金钱，雇佣最成功最擅长的人来运营俱乐部。

* 请PA（潜力值）200的最强主教练执教。

* 请到最强的教练团队，这样每个训练环节都是满星。

* 在每个位置都买一些顶级球星。

* 买一些极其有天赋的球员作为替补。

* 构建世界上更好的（或更好的之一）青训梯队。

* 同时把训练和青年队的各种设施拉满。

曼城让我想起了我在FM20里索尔福德的存档了，只是我是在用了CE和球探工具之后才做到了这些。

[–]reply eternitystrikes 476 points 20 hours ago

If anything City should be ashamed that it took them so many years to reach a final with billions they spend.

如果说曼城有一点要感到耻辱的地方，那就是砸了这么多钱，在这么多年以后的今年才首次打入欧冠决赛。

[–]reply【切尔西】Knights_Radiants 204 points 19 hours ago

Even with all the money PSG reached final only once. It just shows how difficult it is to progress in this knockout games.

大巴黎砸了那么多钱，至今也才进了一次欧冠。这也恰恰说明了在欧冠这种淘汰赛制中，想要更进一步有多难。

[–]reply peioeh 157 points 19 hours ago

PSG's team is nowhere near as well built as City's though. Qatar are building a luxury brand in Paris with PSG, City are going for results first.

大巴黎的建队思路比曼城差远了，卡塔尔慢慢地把大巴黎做成了一个奢侈品牌，曼城现在要的是奖杯。

[–]reply【巴萨】Fati25 228 points 19 hours ago

PSG didn't spend the money the same way Manchester City did though. They focused more on purchasing 2 superstars instead of purchasing 7 great players. They have Florenzi as their right-back, someone on that level wouldn't be near Manchester City's starting line-up.

大巴黎砸钱的方式也和曼城不太一样，他们更倾向于买下2名超级巨星，而非用同样的钱买7名优秀的球员。大巴黎的右边后卫竟然是在曼城根本打不上首发的弗洛伦齐。

[–]reply Hyippy 372 points 19 hours ago

It's a miracle they don't win everything every year. They're playing Football Manager with cheats on.

I'd honestly be bored doing what they do if it was a game. "Let's spend £45m on a 5th choice CB".

That's why nobody gives a *** .

曼城每年没拿几个冠军才是奇迹吧，完全就是开了作弊器在玩FM。

如果这是FM的话，其实玩着真的挺没意思的，“花4500万英镑买个第五顺位的中后卫玩吧”。

这就是为什么大家都觉得曼城进欧冠决赛不是什么大事。

[–]RecognitionSame5332 2496 points 20 hours ago

I forgot that Bayern and PSG pay their players with bread and water

不说我都差点忘了，拜仁和大巴黎给球员的待遇就是面包和水啊。

[–]reply【英超】shinfoni 607 points 19 hours ago

With baguette and beer most likely

更可能是法棍和啤酒。

[–]【阿斯顿维拉】Vegan_Puffin 2040 points 19 hours ago

I hate the money in football but I love how certain people try and portray little Real Madrid as scraping by on a show string budget or plucky little Barcelona. Maybe if they weren't giving Messi and other players ridiculous wages they wouldn't be in debt.

我不喜欢在足球世界里砸钱的现象，但每当有人提起皇马和巴萨的预算吃紧财政困难的时候，我都很开心。如果不给梅西和其他球员开那么离谱的工资，俱乐部就不会深陷债务危机了。

[–]reply YamYumYamYum 429 points 19 hours ago

True dat. Spanish, italian, english and even German (Schalke first and foremost) clubs overspending way above all limits should be punished, to prevent much malign

大实话，西甲，意甲，英超，甚至还有一些德国俱乐部（沙尔克04更先开的头，也是债务最重的俱乐部），只要花了超过规定上限的钱，就应该罚他们，以防止会带来更多恶性的后果。

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