加时赛算客场进球吗(欧足联取消客场进球球迷不干了)

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导读:传声筒其实就是搬运外网reddit上的一些骚评论,然后再一波骚翻译。一般来说,下面的评论条是对上一条的回复,所以有时候就会有很多抖机灵玩梗。

评论条有些难懂,下面这个表格是用来帮大家理解的。有些东西其实没啥用,比如开头的符号和发布时间。比较有价值的是主队和得分,因为一些评论条必须得特定主队的球迷说出来才有笑点,然后得分高的评论条是比较有趣的(至少老外觉得有意思……)。

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[OFFICIAL] UEFA has abolished the away goals rule

官方:欧足联宣布取消客场进球规则

[–]【皇家马德里】3lB1ch0 12.6k points 18 hours ago222& 2 more

oh *** right off, how the *** would I replace the dopamine hit I get whenever I explain the away goals rule to someone who asked ?

我真是操了,我得怎么才能替代跟别人解释客场进球规则时的多巴胺分泌啊

[–]reply【马洛卡】BabaRamenNoodles 6792 points 18 hours ago23

You just have to add a preamble about how you think the game used to be so much better with the away goals rule. What's the away goals rule? I'm glad you asked....

你可以先来一段说以前有客场进球规则的比赛怎么怎么好看的开场白,然后别人问你啥是客场进球的时候,你再解释

[–]reply【皇家马德里】3lB1ch0 3120 points 18 hours ago

Looks like I'm all set, thank you very much

可以,我好了,感谢!

[–]replygarlic_naan 576 points 18 hours ago

Now just say "Game is gone" and act disgusted.

或者你可以直接说“足球已完”然后装出一副恶心的样子

[–]replyilaughallthetime 748 points 18 hours ago

I'm new here, what is the away goal?

刚看球,啥叫客场进球啊?

[–]reply【皇家马德里】TheJabrone 2067 points 17 hours ago

It doesn't matter anymore, it was abolished.

无所谓了,已经废除了

[–]replybillypilgrim87 269 points 16 hours ago*

Only for legacy fans now

只有老球迷才懂

[–]【津巴布韦】ExternalReplacement5 92 points 17 hours ago

What did it mean?

客场进球规则有啥用呢

[–]replyaneeqz 227 points 17 hours ago

It didn't mean much to a good team

对强队来说就没什么用

[–]reply【皇家马德里】HemanthK1 182 points 16 hours ago

Juventus in shambles

尤文躺枪

[–]【托特纳姆热刺】poli421 83 points 15 hours ago

It meant that Tottenham reached their first ever Champions League final by *** ing over Manchester City and then Ajax. And it was glorious.

客场进球有用就有用在能让我们热刺干翻曼城和阿贾克斯,队史之一次打进欧冠决赛,太特么精彩了

[–]【苏格兰】GJXN1990 84 points 15 hours ago

You just wouldn't understand. You had to be there.

你没经历过,你就不会懂

[–]【德国】yyzable 317 points 18 hours ago

Bonus points if you can combo it with explaining the offside rule.

楼主顺便解释一下越位规则,还能再加点分

[–]reply【埃尔维斯】Qurutin 223 points 18 hours ago

Nah offside rule is too well known, better explain Wenger's proposal and how it'd be much better

不行,越位规则有点太简单了,更好能解释下温格的提案,说下为啥那个更好

[–]replymrdjeydjey 101 points 17 hours ago

What's Wenger's proposal? (genuinely asking)

我认真的,什么是温格的提案

[–]reply【利物浦】Matty96HD 264 points 17 hours ago

Basically it's a changing of the points where we measure offside.

Currently if any part of the attacker crosses the offside line they are offside.

Wenger proposes the attacker must fully break the line so daylight can be seen between the defender and attacker.

Same as how all of the ball has to cross the line for a goal, all of the attackers ball playing parts must be over the offside line to be offside.

基本就是改变了一下越位的标准

目前的规则是,球员超出越位线,他就越位了

温格的提案是是球员必须全身越过越位线才算越位

有点类似足球必须整体越过门线才算进球,进攻球员的有效触球部位必须全部越过越位线才算越位

[–]reply【多特蒙德】addandsubtract 167 points 17 hours ago

I'd rather we have chips in the player's boots that electronically check for offside based on the position of their feet, not their bodies.

我宁愿给球员的球鞋里装上芯片,然后用电子技术来看球员的脚是不是越位

[–]Meecs18 8068 points 19 hours ago

A lot more extra time and penalties me thinks

取消客场进球,加时和点球要多起来了

[–]reply3359N 4820 points 19 hours ago

Making it objectively significantly better to play your home game last

也就让先客后主获得了更多的优势

[–]reply【切尔西】craygroupious 2677 points 18 hours ago

At that point, why not just have to be two 90 minute games then penalties, or just one neutral match. I personally think nothing should have changed except away goals stop during ET.

到这份上,倒不如两场90分钟的比赛之后直接点球,或者再加一场中立球场的比赛。反正我个人认为取消掉加时赛里的客场进球规则就够了

[–]reply【辛辛那提】agntkay 904 points 18 hours ago

I think the neutral venue maybe UEFA's next plan.

我觉得欧足联的下一步可能是中立球场比赛

[–]reply【曼联】MikeyTbT123 1601 points 18 hours ago

Hope not. Nothing like Champions League nights mid week

别吧,对我们本地球迷来说,周中的欧冠比赛可是什么都比不上的

[–]reply【彼得伯勒联】youtossershad1job2do 1301 points 17 hours ago

But how are we going to be able to have games in Baku every week if its always home games? Come on use your head!

要是还分主客场我们怎么才能让阿塞拜疆每周末都办比赛呢?动动脑子啊!

[–]reply【苏格兰】TheUltimateScot *** an 640 points 17 hours ago

Baku

Not thinking big enough mate. It's definitely going to America

“阿塞拜疆”

格局小了啊兄弟,以后欧冠可是要去美国办的

[–]【巴塞罗那】CruyffsPlan 703 points 18 hours ago

This is the biggest change in our sport since 2008 when Pep Guardiola invented passing.

取消客场进球是2008年瓜迪奥拉发明了传球之后,足球运动更大的改变了

[–]【切尔西】tanman170 2805 points 18 hours ago

The thing about away goals is that it leads to very few times where the tie is level. Meaning someone always has an incentive to attack. In the World Cup and euros you get a lot of cagey, boring knockout ties because teams are level and don’t want to take any risks. In the EL and CL, teams attack much more because they have incentive to with the tie not being level. I worry we will get a lot of drab football now

客场进球的一大好处就是两回合比赛很少会打平进入加时,也就是说永远有一方会有进攻的动机。在世界杯和欧洲杯的淘汰赛阶段会有很多沉闷、无聊的比赛,因为双方都不想冒险。但是在欧冠和欧联中就正相反,球队会更多的进攻,因为即使比分打平,也有一支球队是在落后。我害怕以后欧冠淘汰赛也要开始沉闷起来了

[–]replyLloydCole 1276 points 18 hours ago

It also creates the only instance in football of a single goal swinging the tie from a team losing to a team winning.

The crazy peaks of emotion you get with goals like Iniesta's vs Chelsea in 2009 are just not the same if it only takes the game into extra-time.

而且客场进球还制造了足球比赛中唯一的一个进球就能让球队从输球变成赢球的情况

如果伊涅斯塔09年对切尔西的进球是将比赛拖入加时,那么球迷是没法体验到那种疯狂的情绪的

[–]reply【切尔西】hesh0925 347 points 16 hours ago

You just had to bring up that goal, didn't you...

你就非得提一嘴这个球是不是

[–]【布里斯托城】IgnorantLobster 1970 points 19 hours ago

Apparently an unpopular opinion but I don’t mind this. I think losing after a 1-1 and 2-2 draw, say, is harsh.

我这观点显然是少数,但是我不介意取消掉客场进球,我觉得一场1-1和一场2-2之后被淘汰,也不是个道理

[–]reply【皇家马德里】Craaaazyyy 355 points 19 hours ago

i think if they abolish the away goal rule they should absolutely abolish extra time.. home teams already had a huge advantage, now without an away goal rule they will have an even bigger advantage

我觉得要是取消客场进球的话,绝对得把加时赛一起取消掉。主队已经足够有优势了,现在没有客场进球规则,他们的优势会更大。

[–]replyhuskytogo 172 points 18 hours ago

Straight to pens then?

所以打平直接进点球?

[–]reply【拜仁慕尼黑】Hubbleshubbles 342 points 18 hours ago

Unironically, yes

没错。

[–]【葡萄牙】PreachinMyOwnFuneral 241 points 18 hours ago

Honestly after 180 minutes in two different grounds if the tie ends in a draw then the teams have proven to be simply equals, penaltys it is

讲道理踢了180分钟双方还是打平的话,足够说明双方实力不相上下了,点球就好咯

[–]reply【曼联】quit_daedalus 116 points 18 hours ago

UEFA: let me do the introduction of the third game at a neutal venue with penalties and extra times.

欧足联:给大家介绍一下我们的新规则,两回合打平之后在中立场地踢第三场比赛,有加时和点球

[–]reply【斯旺西】MattGeddon 45 points 18 hours ago

What do you mean introduction? That’s exactly how it used to work

什么新规则,这是很久以前的老规则

[–]reply【克拉约瓦大学】vMihai777 15 points 16 hours ago

Yes but this time it’s in Qatar/China/US

没错,但这回这个中立场地在卡塔尔/中国/美国

[–]【威尔士】TheLimeyLemmon 837 points 18 hours ago

For those curious about previous UCL outcomes that would have gone to extra time & penalties under this new rule over the last 10 seasons:

Bayern Munich vs PSG - QF 20/21

Porto vs Juventus - Ro16 20/21

Lyon vs Juventus - Ro16 19/20

Tottenham vs Ajax - SF 18/19

Tottenham vs Man City - QF 18/19

Man United vs PSG - Ro16 18/19

Barcelona vs Roma - QF 17/18

Shakhtar Donetsk vs Roma - Ro16 17/18

Man City vs Monaco - Ro16 16/17

Atletico Madrid vs Bayern Munich - SF 15/16

Arsenal vs Monaco - Ro16 14/15

PSG vs Chelsea - Ro16 14/15

PSG vs Chelsea - QF 13/14

PSG vs Barcelona QF 12/13

Arsenal vs Bayern Munich Ro16 12/13

As you can see, the away goals route has often allowed the *** aller, less favoured teams in Europe to progress more often. Especially in more recent seasons.

I can understand why so many feel stripping the away goals rule will lead to a distinct loss of a very unique type of drama and magic in the knockout stages.

有人可能会好奇,如果没有客场进球,过去10个赛季会有哪些比赛进入加时赛

拜仁慕尼黑vs大巴黎(胜出) 20/21赛季四分之一决赛

波尔图(胜出)vs尤文图斯 20/21赛季八分之一决赛

里昂(胜出)vs尤文图斯 19/20赛季四分之一决赛

热刺(胜出)vs阿贾克斯 18/19赛季半决赛

曼联(胜出)vs大巴黎 18/19赛季八分之一决赛

巴塞罗那vs罗马(胜出) 17/18赛季四分之一决赛

顿涅茨克矿工vs罗马(胜出) 17/18赛季八分之一决赛

曼城vs摩纳哥(胜出) 16/17赛季八分之一决赛

马竞(胜出)vs拜仁慕尼黑 15/16赛季半决赛

阿森纳vs摩纳哥(胜出) 14/15赛季八分之一决赛

大巴黎(胜出)vs切尔西 14/15赛季八分之一决赛

大巴黎vs切尔西(胜出) 13/14赛季四分之一决赛

大巴黎vs巴塞罗那(胜出) 12/13赛季四分之一决赛

阿森纳vs拜仁慕尼黑(胜出) 12/13赛季八分之一决赛

很明显,客场进球通常能帮助更小的,更不被看好的球队晋级,特别是最近几个赛季

我完全理解有人认为取消客场进球会削弱欧冠淘汰赛的魔力和戏剧性的观点

[–]reply【皇家马德里】cowworshipper 294 points 16 hours ago

exactly why the UCL is so special. it brings out the emotions of fans. rage, relief, happiness, sadness, heartbreak, a lot of it because of the away goal rule

欧冠就是因为客场进球才变得特别。客场进球会带动球迷的情绪,愤怒,信念,欢喜,悲伤,心碎,种种情绪都与客场进球紧密相关

[–]【阿贾克斯】mavsy41 784 points 18 hours ago2

Suck a dick Lucas Moura, try doing your bullshit now!

傻了吧小卢卡斯,现在再来试试绝杀我们啊

[–]reply【托特纳姆热刺】naznazem 193 points 12 hours ago

he'll just score the 4th in extra time

卢卡斯加时赛再进第四了就完事了

[–]reply【阿贾克斯】mavsy41 77 points 11 hours ago

I say: abolish extra time!

那我现在开始支持取消加时赛了

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